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Old 04-06-2009, 12:42 PM
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Sometimes the forum is totally sleepy, quiet..... as if nobody have something to say !
It might mean a good thing, everybody is happy and all works well.

i don't like sunday.

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Angry Product = Forum

The forum gets asleep as the product get asleep...or is it already dead ?

The only guy whos does something for the product is Tommy (thanks for that).

I begin to forget FPP because nothing really happes, no update, no new corrected tutorial, no useable GUI.

And i wont say anything about Denis blog, but...

There are products out there who are more promising....Pano2VR or Autopano Giga

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Old 04-08-2009, 05:10 PM
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I begin to forget FPP because nothing really happes, no update, no new corrected tutorial, no useable GUI.

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There are products out there who are more promising....Pano2VR or Autopano Giga
I mostly agree that fpp is silently dying, despites the hippcues here and there on the Google Group.

But I don't agree that there's no useble GUI. Trausti does an incredible job with Flashificator. And compared to Pano2VR and Autopano Giga, FFC is the most complete GUI, not to mention all the plugins coming with it.

As for the promising products:

- only FPP and Lucid Viewer support object distortion (projection) within the pano. Neither Pano2VR nor KRPano (which is the player used by Autopano Giga) allow projections.
- only FPP and Pano2VR (Lucid?) fully support flash 10 (aka take advantage of it). KRPano is still in a sort of beta status regarding flash 10.
- FPP is the player which has the more plugins available.

But like you, I'm longing for a significant update for fpp..
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:32 PM
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Default ok.

But I don't agree that there's no useble GUI. Trausti does an incredible job with Flashificator. And compared to Pano2VR and Autopano Giga, FFC is the most complete GUI, not to mention all the plugins coming with it.

--> ok. it is quite complete, but very hard to use.
i lost the patience before (!) the save function was added and coded manually.

I understand that planning & coding such a project is hard....so i dont want to say nothing against the team.

But still basics are missing: An Overwiew which panos and objects are used.
It needs a Treeview! Click on object (Pano or hotspot) and you have all properties or functions.

Remember Live Picture Reality Studio ?
Easy to use ! Structured overview !

About FPP:
Somebody should shout loud, maybe then Denis gets awake....
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:36 PM
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An Overwiew which panos and objects are used.
It needs a Treeview! Click on object (Pano or hotspot) and you have all properties or functions.
I like good ideas, and that one is good. How it can be done, will be up to my programmer to figure out.

As to Denis: He is working on the next big update, and there are a lot of new (never seen before) functionalities that will come with it. He prefers to publish a program that doesn't need continuous bug fixes and updates... and that I can promise you, is not an easy task. So between versions, there is deafening silence... He responds everyone who writes him, and that is good service... that he mostly remains quiet in forums and the blog... well, that's just how it is. We can wish for more info and interaction from him, but then again, it's better that he uses his time to work on the programming, than interacting in the forums... or nothing would be done.

When version 2.4 comes out, we will all be very happy... and after a while, people will want something more... That's just how we humans are... me being no different.

Another factor to take into account, is that when we bought FPP, we got our money's worth - and then some. The updates may be few and long between... but when those come at no additional cost, we should rather be glad and enjoy those when they come. Free bonus rounds.
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Aye to Tuddi.

As supermoderator I am also in frequent contact with Denis.
Not much about the big update but like Tudi is saying.
and I quote.
"And I don't like to launch not finished products"

end quote.

and it takes time.
almost all coding is needs to be redone..
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:10 PM
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Sometimes the forum wake up, it might mean something else !

I love FPP, .........as you do....!

Denis does his possible, and we will too...!

Peace, and long life to FPP !!

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Old 04-08-2009, 08:17 PM
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I think that with FPP we can do almost everything.... When I left easypano tourweaver 2,5 years ago (almoast no support, very expensive sw + upgrade, features was nice at that time, but still LIMITED for me), I was amazed, what the others produced by immervision Pure Player (Java version - programmable API).
It was such confusing for me that I started to learn the API. It was very hard for me as I was everything but not programmer :-) But I decided to not be lazy and after some time found FPP = another code for learning... :-) But I am sure it was very valuable time - I have spent by studying this!

Bodensee: U must decide what U want: program which is able to do everything for U thanks to its GUI (with all of bugs etc. like easypano) or very valuable engine like FPP, but U must hovewer try to understand the API+ U have the forum with all this great people who are eager to advice U! Even some of them prepared some GUI (Icelander living in Peru), plugins (some of them for free!!!) - EVERYTHING JUST FOR U!!! :-) Just do not be lazy. But if U have not so much time or your time is too expensive, try to hire some of advanced FPP users in spite of criticising Denis work :-) I am glad to know that 2.4 will be soon here, but now I am very happy to have any FPP...
(and sorry for my english :-))
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Before buying this I checked the competition and Pano2VR was expensiver and I maybe didnt search enough but I couldnt find any example of panoramas out there with acceptable quality made with Pano2VR, and then also this software seemed "open" so new effects (plugins) could be easily added. I have then read here that Denis is perhaps planning a new version that works like an ordinairy program with a GUI but I really don't see why that should be necessary. But thats just me, could very well have wrong.
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2.4 will blow our minds!
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